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kerrylyn's avatar

That's exactly how the debate would have unfolded. Maybe do same with Trump vs. other Democrat candidates, like Trump vs. Shiva or why not, Shiva vs RRKjr. Then Trump vs. Kamala because that looks like what it will boil down to.. People need to keep in mind the awareness of average voter in US/western countries in general and how they would react to such debates. From what I'm seeing, the least aware but most motivated (to vote) are left-wingish people. Those who understand the big picture i.e, uniparty politics/same global agenda supported by all major parties, those people are now promoting the don't vote agenda. I say vote for the lesser evil, until such time as signed blank ballots are officially recognized in tally. The don't vote pushers are useful idiots of NWO.

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Here’s Trump vs Kamala on economy/healthcare

### Moderator: Welcome to tonight's presidential debate. We are joined by former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris. Thank you both for being here. Let's dive right into the first topic: the economy. President Trump, you have the floor.

**Donald Trump**: Thank you, thank you. Let me tell you, folks, we had the greatest economy in the history of our country under my administration. Unemployment, lowest ever. African Americans, Hispanics, Asian Americans – all doing better than ever before. Tremendous growth. Then, the pandemic hit. And what did the Democrats do? They shut everything down. They destroyed businesses. They don't know how to run the economy. We need to open up, folks. Open up and get back to making America great again.

### Moderator: Vice President Harris, your response?

**Kamala Harris**: Well, thank you so much. You know, we are in a time where we have seen unprecedented challenges, but also incredible resilience from the American people. And what we need to remember is that the economy is about people – hardworking people who need opportunities, who need to feel the dignity of work. We have to rebuild in a way that lifts everyone up, that addresses systemic inequities, climate change, and ensures that all communities, especially our most vulnerable, have a chance to thrive. So, it's not just about going back to where we were, but moving forward to where we need to be.

### Moderator: Thank you. The next question is about healthcare. President Trump, during your time in office, you promised to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. How would you address healthcare moving forward?

**Donald Trump**: Look, we had a great plan. Tremendous plan. The best plan. But the Democrats, they blocked it. They don’t want anything good to happen. Obamacare is a disaster, folks. Premiums are up, deductibles are through the roof. We need a system that works for everybody, not the broken system we have now. We need competition, we need to bring down the costs. And we can do it, believe me.

### Moderator: Vice President Harris, your thoughts on healthcare?

**Kamala Harris**: You know, healthcare is a fundamental right. And we have to ensure that every American has access to affordable, high-quality healthcare. The Affordable Care Act was a step in the right direction, but we need to build on it. We need to reduce prescription drug prices, expand coverage, and protect people with pre-existing conditions. And let's not forget, we have to address mental health with the same priority as physical health. It's about caring for the whole person and creating a system that works for everyone.

### Moderator: Moving on to immigration. President Trump, your administration was known for its strict immigration policies. What would you do differently now?

**Donald Trump**: Law and order, folks. We need borders. If you don’t have borders, you don’t have a country. We built a wall, and it's working. The Democrats want open borders. They want anyone to come in. It’s chaos. We need strong borders, we need to stop the drugs, we need to stop the crime. And we need to have a system where people come in legally. They have to come in legally, folks.

### Moderator: Vice President Harris, your perspective on immigration?

**Kamala Harris**: Immigration is integral to our identity as a nation. It has always been our strength. But our system is broken. We need comprehensive immigration reform that offers a pathway to citizenship, protects Dreamers, and secures our borders in a humane and effective way. We have to address the root causes of migration, including violence and poverty, in the countries people are fleeing from. It's about creating an immigration system that reflects our values, our humanity, our shared responsibility.

### Moderator: Thank you both. Our final question is about climate change. President Trump, what are your views on how to tackle climate change?

**Donald Trump**: Well, look, I love the environment. Nobody loves it more than me. But we need to be smart. The Paris Accord was a disaster – cost us jobs, cost us money. We have to focus on clean air, clean water, but not destroy our economy in the process. Energy independence is key. And we can do that with clean coal, natural gas, while also exploring renewables. But it has to be balanced, folks. Balanced.

### Moderator: Vice President Harris, your closing thoughts on climate change?

**Kamala Harris**: Climate change is one of the biggest existential threats of our time. And it’s not something we can afford to ignore. We need to invest in renewable energy, create millions of clean energy jobs, and transition away from fossil fuels. We must ensure that our policies are just and equitable, helping those communities most affected by pollution and climate disasters. And we need to rejoin global efforts, like the Paris Accord, to tackle this problem together. It's about caring for our planet and future generations.

### Moderator: That concludes tonight's debate. Thank you, President Trump and Vice President Harris, for sharing your views. To our audience, thank you and good night!

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Amy Lauschke's avatar

You made Kamala's speech more bearable to read that I suspect it would actually be. She is really always mouthing "word salad" which does not make sense.

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kerrylyn's avatar

It's AI that did the work.

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CatGirl7's avatar

This was pretty good. However, it didn’t show how RFK Jr usually backs up his statements with detailed evidence.

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kerrylyn's avatar

There is no time to provide detailed evidence to back up one's statements during last leg of political debate, whether at party level or between contestants for presidency.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Voting will make no difference.

I’ve moved to the position that voting, even to spoil your ballet, only validates a corrupt & broken system, which pretends to offer choice.

Regardless of the colour of the tie in the White House (or No. 10, Downing Street, or the EU Commission) we will get the UN, WEF and an end to The West, to “liberal democracy” & freedom, forever.

Unless we fight for what we want. Ignore politicians. Nothing but time wasting and harm.

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Factscinator's avatar

Dr. Yeadon. Great to see you here. Why is Aussie 17 pushing the virus lie? Haven't Aussies had enough of taking toxic jabs for microbes that dont exist?? I'm beginning to wonder about em‘. They voted that fucking asshole Dan Andrews back to office after the Convid tyranny in a Danslide.

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DrMikeYeadon's avatar

I understand he is yet to undertake his personal journey.

It wasn’t quick for me, either.

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Factscinator's avatar

I‘m glad you took that journey. I remember feeling elated when I heard you had seen the light.

When I heard that viroliegists ‘prove‘ the existence of viruses by poisoning cell cultures with antibiotics to induce CPEs with No Control I fell out of my chair. It was a real "You what!!" moment.

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DrMikeYeadon's avatar

Absolutely that for me, too.

Just couldn’t believe it,

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Dr Mathew Maavak's avatar

ChatGPT actually acceded to this requests?

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Aussie17's avatar

nope!! it rejected it. I used another

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Dr Mathew Maavak's avatar

Oh, which one?

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Aussie17's avatar

bearly. I had to prompt it several times too. Don't know why.

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Cinpete's avatar

Looking forward to hearing the new info. on the MRNA shots.

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

"Donald Trump Promoting Big Pharma & COVID Vaccines" - Donald Trump Promoting Big Pharma & COVID Vaccines

https://rumble.com/v475o80-donald-trump-promoting-big-pharma-and-covid-vaccines.html#comment-342744039

Catherine Austin Fitts – Trump put $10 Billion Dollars into a Program to Depopulate the US https://rumble.com/v43aore-catherine-austin-fitts-trump-put-10-billion-dollars-into-a-program-to-depop.html

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Anthony Robert Holland

@eftsolutionsah

Trump kicked those FDA asses to get this WarpSpeed deadly Bioweapon into yours and your families veins.

17 million dead so far from his deadly Bioweapon, is it time you finally came around to your senses ? 2:16 min

https://x.com/eftsolutionsah/status/1764219269468836286

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Sayin' a Lie 5:25 Trump at mark 3:43 min ¨Take the vaccine, I did it. It's good...¨

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqTGOFNuQRA

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Catherine Austin Fitts – Trump put $10 Billion Dollars into a Program to Depopulate the US https://rumble.com/v43aore-catherine-austin-fitts-trump-put-10-billion-dollars-into-a-program-to-depop.html

Please share as much as possible.

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Domcrin's avatar

They are friends and have exactly the same pro Israeli agenda.. forget elections they are a fraud as is government!

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OziSeekerbloke's avatar

Well done, reads like a real debate between those two.

Someone has suggested that the call from Biden from isolation, to that conference a few days ago was AI generated. Seeing what you have here makes that even more likely although the Biden speech was maybe a little too coherent for him.

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Les's avatar

Great, you asked a giant guessing machine something and expect, what, exactly?

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

The truth: Don’t worry folks. The white hats are coming… Any day now 🥴 "Well, I got the Pfizer, and I would have been very happy with any of them. I thought a very bad statement was when they did a pause on Johnson & Johnson. I think that frightened people. That was a bad thing to do. At that time, when they did the pause, they had six people that may have had some difficulty out of millions that received it. But I think the pause was a very bad thing to do." — Donald J Trump, October 2nd 2021
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"During my administration, everybody wanted the vaccine. There was nobody saying oh, gee, I don't want to take it. Now they say that. And that's because they don't trust the Biden administration. I can think of no other reason. But they say we don't want it, we aren't going to take it. When I was there, everybody wanted it and we were doing great. Well, the military did a fantastic job." — Donald J Trump, October 7th 2021

"I'm very proud of the vaccine, I've taken it, you've probably taken it. But I'm very proud of it. I think we could have another situation with the Spanish Flu, 1917, where up to 100 million people were killed." — Donald J
Trump, August 18th 2021

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

TRUMP "I recommend taking the vaccines. I did it, it’s good. Take the vaccines.” — Donald J Trump, August 21st, 2021


"I hope everyone remembers when they're getting the COVID-19 Vaccine, that if I wasn’t President, you wouldn’t be getting that beautiful 'shot' for 5 years, at best, and probably wouldn't be getting it at all. I hope everyone remembers!" — Donald J Trump, February 28th 2021



"I would recommend it and I would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly." — Donald J Trump, March 16th 2021



"We have our freedoms and we have to live by that, and I agree with that also. But it is a great vaccine. It is a safe vaccine, and it is something that works." — Donald J Trump, March 17th 2021



"Get those shots everyone!" — Donald J Trump, December 17th 2020



“I guess in a certain way, I’m the father of the vaccine because I was the one that pushed it. To get it done in less than nine months was a miracle.” - Donald J Trump, April 29th 2021



"Everybody, go get your shot." — Donald J Trump, February 28th 2021



"It works incredibly well. 95%, maybe even more than that...and it is really saving our country and it is saving frankly the world." — Donald J Trump, March 9th 2021



"It will save millions of lives, and soon end the pandemic once and for all. These vaccines are also very safe." — Donald J Trump, December 11th 2020



"The Vaccine and the Vaccine rollout are getting the best of reviews. Moving along really well. Get those shots everyone!" — Donald J Trump, December 17th 2020

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kerrylyn's avatar

We know all that. What's the point you're trying to make?

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

I was replying to paul and others who still believe in Trump. When you say ¨We know all that.¨ You know what?

paul

3 hrs ago

Really you asked AI?? And consider that a valuable contribution??

Better to stay in your lane..

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Les's avatar

You seriously need to go find out more about what an A"I" chatbot actually does. They're seriously nothing like what you seem to think they are.

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kerrylyn's avatar

Cher Mario Leblanc - tu me fais penser aux jeux de gameboy ou supermario s'amusait a monter puis descendre des escaliers. Tu t'en souviens ou pas?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Really you asked AI?? And consider that a valuable contribution??

Better to stay in your lane..

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Hey Paul. Really? I am not AI but I can tell you this:

Yes and let's not forget : TRUMP?? Are you talking about Jim Jones ( The leader of the Peoples Temple cult who initiated a mass murder-suicide at the Jonestown compound in Guyana ) - Mr. Warp Speed - Take your vaccines, boosters, it's good, I got mine, Trump?

Trump gave few billions $ to the BigPharma to develop this killer shots. He still even bragged saying that if there are 200 millions vaccinated americans, it is because of him.

He knows that vaccines are bad. Kids are not horses do you remember? Robert F. Kennedy Jr met him at the beginning of his mandate as President but he let him down.

His Tramemark - motto is ¨You're fired! Why didn't he fire Dr. Mengel - Fauci?

Yes he is bright. He his a showman. He says what people want to hear. He has a big mouth. He looks tough but is he really? NO! He plays on both side and for his ego.

Robert Kennedy Jr. Blows Whistle On Pfizer Donating $1 Million To Trump Inaugural

https://thewashingtonstandard.com/robert-kennedy-jr-blows-whistle-on-pfizer-donating-1-million-to-trump-inaugural-see-what-happened-following-that-video/

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Renee Marie's avatar

👏💥

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Are you really comparing DJT to Jim Jones???

If 200 mil took "it" and "it" was not "mandated" who are the fools??

Your ego assessment, showman, Jim Jones

My diagnosis is end stage Derangement Syndrome.

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Yes. I am comparing DJT to Jim Jones.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

that is an admission of stupidity

why stop there others like the Hitler analogy

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

TRUMP "I recommend taking the vaccines. I did it, it’s good. Take the vaccines.” — Donald J Trump, August 21st, 2021


"I hope everyone remembers when they're getting the COVID-19 Vaccine, that if I wasn’t President, you wouldn’t be getting that beautiful 'shot' for 5 years, at best, and probably wouldn't be getting it at all. I hope everyone remembers!" — Donald J Trump, February 28th 2021



"I would recommend it and I would recommend it to a lot of people that don't want to get it and a lot of those people voted for me, frankly." — Donald J Trump, March 16th 2021



"We have our freedoms and we have to live by that, and I agree with that also. But it is a great vaccine. It is a safe vaccine, and it is something that works." — Donald J Trump, March 17th 2021



"Get those shots everyone!" — Donald J Trump, December 17th 2020



“I guess in a certain way, I’m the father of the vaccine because I was the one that pushed it. To get it done in less than nine months was a miracle.” - Donald J Trump, April 29th 2021



"Everybody, go get your shot." — Donald J Trump, February 28th 2021



"It works incredibly well. 95%, maybe even more than that...and it is really saving our country and it is saving frankly the world." — Donald J Trump, March 9th 2021



"It will save millions of lives, and soon end the pandemic once and for all. These vaccines are also very safe." — Donald J Trump, December 11th 2020



"The Vaccine and the Vaccine rollout are getting the best of reviews. Moving along really well. Get those shots everyone!" — Donald J Trump, December 17th 2020

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Good points all. However all built of assumptions. He mandated nothing, it was always about choice cheerleading aside. If people choose that is their choice.

Imagine the most hated person on earth, also taking on Big P.

Not making excuses, have known the great details about the vaxs for 35 years, the MRNA kill shots really took a simple mind to comply.

If one is willing to play the long game, then asking better questions is the way forward.

In any case, Nov is not far away.

RFK is for "safe" vaccines, there are none, abortions up to delivery, said we were in the Ukraine for "all the right reasons" Cspan, Gaza genocide and.... once a Dem always a Dem

Will not be at all surprised if RFK and the DNC play kiss and make up in the 11th hour.

Anyone falling for that is beyond help

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Abortions is baby killing sold under cute names like "choice" etc

Baby killing is arguably far far worse than the Quaxcines.

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Are you a woman paul?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

are you stupid Mario?

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Renee Marie's avatar

Wow…🤦‍♀️

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Kamii Neko's avatar

'Anyone falling for that is beyond help' - These words will come back to haunt you, if you think old mate is going to save you. He IS Big Pharma. 'He didnt mandate' - No, OBVIOUSLY he was already replaced so had no power to mandate! Great to make out that he made a decision somehow because after the fact he 'said so'. but he sure marketed heavily for over a year later, almost like he was being paid by some group...

Also weirds me out how people who care about unborn babies are cool with born babies and children of Americans dying because 'they are on the other side' - played. And they also can forgive his past perverted sexual tendencies like the prostitutes, Epsteins hard connection, and puss* grabbing and sexualising his own daughter. Then being the Clintons good mate, donating to Gates and WHO via that back door and the list goes on and on.

Its almost like cognitive dissonance and bias is a real thing? Sunk cost fallacy? And yup RFK is controlled op. There is no sides - just bonuses for the lead actor. And that will be old mate, which I called even before he said he was running again as what a great distraction that will be!

Now, old mates first decision is Vance - Peter Theils poster boy - well in with Benzos, Waltons etc, and that should be enough, leaving aside his funding of mRNA and military bioweapons and pro woke employment requirements.

But, but he's Catholic! Suuure he is. "once a Dem always a Dem" Whoops that would be old mate until 2009 too! And Vances wife.

The US is screwed and will likely be fighting a civil war in the near future - hence all 'the young male imports', as that the plan and what the long played race baiting and wokism was about. There is no winner planned - the instigators will be long gone.

What might change your mind would be a 'live blood analysis'. It was a pincer movement with multiple vectors of ingress and all this 'show' is distraction from that fact that nearly everyone is running from, including you.

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

¨If people choose that is their choice.¨ Really? How about the children?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

children making decisions for children, not a good outcome

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Are you working for the CIA to say so much false information. RFK Jr never said ¨ we were in the Ukraine for "all the right reasons.¨ This is false information. He said the opposite.

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kerrylyn's avatar

He called Putin a thug just a few months ago and put his full support behind zionist/fascist/neo-con agenda to perpetuate war in Ukraine. Apart from that he's still pushing the AGW agenda.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

I take no pleasure in making you look stupid Mario.

2 min and 10 sec in MARIO, partaketh of a large slice of humble pie

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5067589/user-clip-rfk-jr-war-ukraine

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Mario blathers on without Knowledge, he is pretty sure he knows the issues, but.... does not

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

¨BUT WE NEED TO KNOW AS AMERICANS AND WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT IS OUR GOVERNMENTS CHIEF OBJECTIVE IN THIS WAR? NOW, WE WERE TOLD INITIALLY THAT THE OBJECTIVE WAS HUMANITARIAN. THAT IS A GOOD REASON TO BE THERE. HUMANITARIAN. WHAT THAT MEANS IS TRYING TO END THE BLOODSHED AND MINIMIZE IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN RECENT TIMES, PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID THAT ONE OF OUR OBJECTIVES IS REGIME CHANGE OF VLADIMIR PUTIN THIS IS THE SAME STRATEGY THAT DID NOT WORK WELL FOR US IN IRAQ AND ITS MANY OF THE SAME PEOPLE THE SAME NEOCONS THAT WERE AROUND PRESIDENT BIDEN WHO HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVE ENGAGED IN GEOPOLITICAL MACHINATIONS IN THE UKRAINE SINCE 2014. AND THEN PRESIDENT BIDEN'S SECRETARY, LLOYD AUSTIN VALIDATED PRESIDENT BIDEN STATEMENT I SAYING THAT OUR OBJECTIVE IN UKRAINE IS TOO EXHAUSTED AND DEGRADE THE RUSSIAN ARMY SO THAT THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF HAVING BATTLES ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD. INDEED, MANY OF THE STEPS THAT WE'VE TAKEN IN UKRAINE HAVE SEEMED TO INDICATE THAT OUR INTEREST IS IN PROLONGING THE WAR RATHER THAN SHORTENING IT. IF THOSE ARE OUR OBJECTIVES, TO HAVE REGIME CHANGE AND EXHAUST THE RUSSIANS, THAT IS ANTITHETICAL TO A HUMANITARIAN MISSION. [APPLAUSE] WE ARE THERE FOR A HUMANITARIAN MISSION, IT MEANS TO REDUCE BLOODSHED AND BRING IN AND TO THE WORK QUICKLY. IF WE ARE THERE TO EXHAUST THE RUSSIANS OR REGIME CHANGE, DOESN'T MEAN THAT UKRAINE IS JUST A PAWN IN A GEOPOLITICAL BATTLE BETWEEN TWO GREAT SUPERPOWERS AND THAT OUR STRATEGY IS TO PUT THE FLOWER OF UKRAINIAN YOUTH IN AN ABATTOIR OF DEATH IN ORDER TO EXHAUST RUSSIA. IF THAT'S TRUE, WE NEED TO DO -- WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT. AND IF IT IS NOT TRUE WE NEED A DISCUSSION WITH THE PRESIDENT, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE AND OTHERS TO TELL US EXACTLY WHAT ARE WE DOING THERE. [APPLAUSE].¨

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Truth Seeker's avatar

blatherfest, all shouting

He said exactly what I reiterated!

You were and are exactly wrong.

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kerrylyn's avatar

TLTR. Summarise in a few sentences, preferably in lowercase.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Trump can kiss my ass. And I voted for that 💩twice.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Trump kisses no ones ass. You have 3 months of hell to witness.

Assuming there is an election, you may well have a third opportunity.

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Renee Marie's avatar

Unfortunately Paul, unbeknownst to you, Trump is a major Zionist. And, unless you know the history, you will never understand or discern the Truth.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

DJT is making the best decisions. I have seen the "wall" photos

Am more interested in the preponderance of evidence over time.

Unfortunately.

Watch as RFK a) either plays kiss and make up the DNC

b) capitulates and endorses DJT

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kerrylyn's avatar

and yet you voted for "that" twice. How come?

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Renee Marie's avatar

I’ve had years to see Truth. And it’s not good for anyone.

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kerrylyn's avatar

Contribution to what? And what has that got to do with "staying in your own lane"? And what does that even mean? Sounds pretty condescending to me.

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Les's avatar

Well, anyone who thinks an A"I" is either useful, truthful or intelligent, probably needs to be condescended at...

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kerrylyn's avatar

AI has been gathering data on all of our statements, opinions, desires, obsessions ... for yonks. It has no doubt worked out already you're a disposable idiot Les.

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Les's avatar

I'm feeling very sad for you kerrylyn, it must be hard struggling through life with no idea how stuff actually works. If you want, I can point you at a few resources that will help you with understanding the shell game that is "AI," if you like.

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DawnieR's avatar

RFK Jr is ALSO a FRAUD! They ALL ARE!!

Which is why I'm voting......

DR. SHIVA for POTUS 2024!

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Mary Lou Longworth's avatar

Shiva is brilliant, but he has a personnel vendetta

against RFK Jr. that comes up again and again. This

is not the personality type that would make a good

leader.

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kerrylyn's avatar

Absolutely. Shiva is a brilliant man with a big chip on his shoulder.

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DawnieR's avatar

As I just commented ^ ^ ^ ......

No ones perfect.....but Shiva is WAY closer to 'perfect' than all of the rest of them.

And at this point, in our countries demise, can we afford to nit-pick at the 'petty' things?

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kerrylyn's avatar

Go vote for Shiva then.

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Mary Lou Longworth's avatar

For a long time, RFK Jr. ignored Shiva's criticism, but finally responded. This is a link to his answer. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/critical-questions-for-dr-shiva-about-his-attempts-to-splinter-the-health-freedom-movement/

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kerrylyn's avatar

We don't have time to read/listen to everything. What did he say apart from what we can gather from title?

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DawnieR's avatar

It's not a 'vendetta'; Shiva just LOATHES him! lol

No ones perfect.....but Shiva is WAY closer to 'perfect' than all of the rest of them.

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kerrylyn's avatar

Shiva probably has higher IQ than all presidential candidates put together. That does not make him presidentiable. His over-weening pride and huge ego, not to mention his offensive language towards ex-amical opponents, rules him out imho, unfortunately.

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

I don't like Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai.

Critical Questions for Dr. Shiva About His Attempts to Splinter the Health Freedom Movement

By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

¨For many months I have remained silent in the face of defamatory and dishonest attacks against me by Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai. My approach was to ignore the sniping to preserve the unity of the Health Freedom Movement. However, Shiva has expanded his malevolent campaign to include venomous salvos against our community’s most prominent and effective leaders, including Del Bigtree, Mark Blaxill, Dr. Rashid Buttar, Polly Tommey and Samoan-Australian activist Taylor Winterstein. Because he now has some of our outstanding spokesmen in his gun-sites, and because his poisonous volleys have begun to damage the solidarity that is critical to our success, I reluctantly make this response.¨ Read More

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/critical-questions-for-dr-shiva-about-his-attempts-to-splinter-the-health-freedom-movement/

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We're being CONNED! MOST of the names you've mentioned, including RFK Jr, are 'on the Globalists Payroll'. (Dr. Buttar was not; HE was MURDERED by the Globalists!).

EVERY AMERICAN should have a Litmus Test. And that is......Are they 'Israel' FIRST?? If so, then they are a TRAITOR to America/Americans!!

Most AmeriKans have NO CLUE that Traitor-Trump, Traitor-RFK Jr., Traitor-PedoJoe ALL have to SIGN A PLEDGE to put the Khazarian (aka 'Israeli') State FIRST! And that MOST of Congress has had to do the same! I don't know how many AmeriKans saw the speech the other day by Benzion Mileikowsky (aka Netanyahu) to Congress.......but THAT SHOULD HAVE made EVERY AMERICAN SICK TO THEIR STOMACH'S!! This Psycho-Demon Khazarian (by the way, Khazarians are NOT JEWISH!!!!!), was there (in the District of Criminals) for ONE reason......to get AMERICA to GO TO WAR WITH IRAN!

Aren't people SICK of being LIED to? Aren't people SICK of being DUPED? Aren't people SICK of being CONNED?? Aren't people SICK of being SUCKERED? WHEN is this shit going to END? WHEN are people going to REALLY wake up?!

I'm DONE with Trump! He's had one too many MAJOR fuck-ups for me to ever vote for him again; he's a LIAR and a FRAUD! RFK Jr is also a LYING FRAUD! And PedoJoe....we KNOW what HE is! They're ALL CLOWNS! They all give people THEATRE.....and the people eat it up!

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Mario A Leblanc's avatar

I don't agree with you about Robert F Kennedy Jr. I am following him for at least 12 years and he did a lot for the children.

Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy Present Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - Shocking Vaccine Cover Up: Apr 25, 2009

https://altcensored.com/watch?v=N-Af0ar7gE4

Part 2: Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy Present Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - Shocking Vaccine Cover Up Apr 25, 2009

https://altcensored.com/watch?v=2ysbUM5jk54

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DawnieR's avatar

RFK Jr. does NOT pass THE LITMUS TEST. (Neither does Trump, PedoJoe, MOST members of Congress)!

There is a VERY LONG LIST; but here is just a FEW:

Khazarians (aka 'Israel') have had a HUGE hand in (if not solely responsible)...

USS Liberty (the murder of 34 crew members)

9/11 (the murder of 3,300+)

The 'CV19' Bio-weapon Injections (MILLIONS dead/dying)

I shall repeat, again.....Khazarians are NOT Jews! But pass themselves off as!

In THEIR OWN WORDS.....(Here is EVERYONES Litmus Test)......

https://www.bitchute.com/video/ETMGvf6Tbbxt

https://www.bitchute.com/video/mhhAw8dpBN2s

https://rumble.com/v4qco39-donald-trump-is-part-of-the-covid-zionists-that-want-you-dead.html

There are much longer videos out there; documentary style.

Litmus Test FAIL.......Kennedy, Trump, PedoJoe & MOST of Congress!

So-called 'AMERICANS' are in for one hell of a wake-up call!

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Domcrin's avatar

So what about RFK's support of the Israeli genocide? Nothing can excuse that! Also he is obsessed with the Gain of Function narrative.

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Just call me Jack's avatar

It was this article that made me begin to question RFK jr (after many years) because he lied in the article calling Shiva's Cytosolve (an insilico cell mechanism simulator platform to test drug-cell interactions/pathways) a "vaccine manufacturer". He doesn't make vaccines. All vaccine manufacturers rejected running their products through Cytosolve to analyse mechanisms of action....i wonder why??? Think of all the experimental animals that could be spared during drug/vaccine development with the initial insilico analysis. Yes it would make Shiva $ but he developed the program. But Shiva is polarising...but has interesting insights.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yYQ0lwzFgu8

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kerrylyn's avatar

RFKjr remained silent re. Shiva's claims because at least some of them were probably true and a lawsuit for defamation would have carried the risk of revealing those truths. Moreover, there is no solidarity amongst so-called "Health Freedom Movement". All those cited are/were grifters, apart from a couple I've never heard of.

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The Grumpy Old Man's avatar

While Trump can claim hero status for OWSpeed, for political purposes, in reality he did not personally design, manufacture and give approval of the vax. His Task Force, his administration, the DoD and other agencies were responsible for the creation, delivery and approval of the product.

I have noticed a strong suspicion in the (real) scientific community that the vax contents for the mass rollout was different to what was initially submitted for approval. What is to say they didn't also switch out what Trump originally wanted (eg the Zelenko protocol), for mRNA?

Still too many questions...

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Netra Halperin's avatar

Wow, IA is good.

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EM's avatar
Jul 26Edited

Interesting! Sounds like a plausible debate except RFK jr spends a significant amount of his words by backing himself up and is much more succinct as a result.

I'd love to have the prompts you used to ask HPT to simulate these debates. Is that possible?

Also, you said you "hear" studies are underway to show causal relationships between disease and the mRNA vax. Where have you heard this and where can we hear it also? Like RFK jr, I like direct sources over speculation. I don't like to be teased. Where should we be looking to watch out for the research? Who is doing it? Who said it's being done? Thank you..

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Factscinator's avatar

Great!! Now you're employing AI to try n keep peeps trapped in a false dichotomy: appropriate response for a ‘pandemic‘ of fraudulent PCR postive case counts vs inappropriate response to a pandemic of fraudulent PCR postive case counts.

The moderator warned both candidates against offering up heresies such as sound health advice and any mention that pathogenic viruses dont actually exist. Unecessary considering the 2 gentlemen ‘debating.‘

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