I've spent nearly two decades in the trenches of the pharmaceutical sector, and the hallmarks of that tenure are unmistakably scattered around my living space.
Being called an ‘anti-vaxxer’ and, ‘conspiracy theorist’ by my husband for 2 solid years made me doubt my sanity:(. But, the phoenix has risen and, it’s because of pp like you Aussie!
My Commiserations to you regards the spousal abuse... Curiously, I must ask whether your husband has seen the light given the passing of time and apologised. I share a similar journey as a father / brother to a total of 9 blood relatives and 3 inlaws, all of whom scoffed at my warnings. Only 1 from this group has barely approached the state of 'waking up'.
Nope. No apology but, he has health issues now. And, a lot of ‘coincidences’ occurring with friends and, family. So, there is silence. Which, at the root of it is probably fear. Hey, at least you have 1 coming around!
I don't really care if the older ones dont' come around, it's the younger ones you want to see the light, before they try and start families or maybe before their kids have been jabbed for the 18th vaccination (18 vaccinations on the Australian schedule which is about 64 better than America but 18 more than best practice)
Cinpete you’re not alone my husband called me an antivaxxer and Covid denier.
I’m not a denier I did constantly point out how people had been denied early treatments and had led to their deaths.
He is however in denial though and will not admit he’s been conned, he’s not alone as millions now are suffering from side effects and excess deaths continue.
Not admitting is a form of mind protection form them that our governments could harm and murder en mass on purpose.
Legend... I left my job too, I let them sack me, and let it cost them thousands in lawyer letters and representation (I didn't spend a cent)... I am amazed that most people didn't see through this propaganda, and that there is no collective memory of thalidomide, Vioxx etc to jolt people awake and suspect something isn't quite right here... Especially when it became forced, and they started recommending it for pregnant women and babies...
Work mandated, despite already knowing we had a case of confirmed vaccine pericarditis... OH&S rules went out the window...
I don't regret leaving work for a second ... Who wants to work for people that moronic?
I did exactly the same. McClown's mandate came into effect at my work on 31/12/2021 - some happy New Year - not!
Forced them to stand me down, terminate me, then took them to Fair Work Commission knowing full well that it would not work, and they had 2 lawyers there plus 2 from HR up against me on my own. Got extra monies out of them, then dragged my feet on signing the Deed of Release forcing them to make changes to it first. No regrets whatsoever.
We also had a case of vaxx induced pericarditis in the office. A young mother of 2, and I was astounded that she went back to have the next jab! This process has clearly demonstrated that OH&S is now a crock of S H one T.
I too, got called an anti-vaxxer in the office by a young male account manager, in front of the entire work crew. Nothing was said to him. It was okay for him to label me. I am glad I no longer work with that lot. Moronic people is an understatement IMO.
Legend... I got called an antivaxxer by work's lawyer at Fairwork too... No reprimand to him by the "mediator"... Despite the guy screaming the term at me like a looney (it's a strange term to spew out anyway, that w@nker didn't know me, I had taken other vaxs in the past without thought really, so how does refusing a rushed genetic potion that's not a vaccineake me antivaxxer? Although after last three years I definitely wouldn't touch one now, so I guess I am now).
mentioned that to some who were eager to get the jab - we are all old enouigh to remember the disabled, deformed babies at the time - they must be my age now. But 'that was something different'. Not in my eye. So far, just had one with a serious seizure now afraid to drive.
Retired 3 years early at the start of the scamdemic, living on too little to live and too much to die but we made it, now fully retired, with retirement pay. Thank god we made it!
I remember thalidomide kids from my school days too
I am scared for all of those with the mortgage, the families, the kids to feed and school ... Many were coerced... Many can't go one pay without disaster to their domestic life... But what will life be like for them in 8 years time, will they get cancer, will the myocarditis sufferers be dead? All the autoimmune conditions, will they still have any quality of life? I know so many with the side effects (and a few who passed away quickly after their vax, not reported to TGA either, but their deaths were very suspicious, strokes and blood clots)... So many won't join the dots as the religion tells them the vac was "safe and effective" and saved "30,000 lives", even though much research says otherwise... and no proof any lives were saved at all, as vaxxed piled in hospital with covid anyway.
Mass non compliance would have been great, it the six who didn't want it at my workplace stood strong, work would have had to change their mind... I get why they caved, but if they'd stood their ground, work would have to cave ...
absolutely. I think if every 40 or 50 of 100 would have refused, this would not have happened. If that many doctors had done their jobs, read up on what was in the vaxx and looked at the pfizer website, they would have seen what a disaster it was. But doctors and after that their patients, trust the govt, even though they normally realize what a bunch of liars make up the govt. Almost everyone has a computer, but I have to hear from the first of friends who did their homework!
Thanks for all your work and insights about your personal experience.
I saw through “antivaxxer” from the beginning as it’s the same playbook that industry used with antidepressants. Except back then those who were trying to get blackbox suicide warnings on antidepressants were called Scientologists.
I will never forget after I testified before US Senate about late husband’s story/FDA reform, the chief lobbyist for National Alliance for Mentally Ill went around to all the Senate HELP committee with my written statement and said “don’t believe a word she is saying, Kim is a Scientologist.”
So when Covid jabs came along, I started to hear “antivaxxer”, “anti science”, and even a “Trumper.”
Name calling is just a distraction when they can’t defend their products.
Plus, never forget they even had to use Webster dictionary to rewrite definition of “antivaxxer.”
.. you might recall the WHO had to officially change the definition of a vaccine to include the characteristics of the ' Experimental gene shot' / countermeasure
I saw a post on facebook that said " If you could rid the world of something what would it be? " My step father wrote " Antivaxxers" I have not spoken to him since. My silly Mother listened to him and got all the toxic jabs only to end up in hospital with the worse flu and tachycardia.
Getting called an anti vaxxer is nothing to me nowadays.
I say "yes I am, what are you going to do about it?"
It is both hilarious and scary that a lifelong Vax seller, like yourself, is labelled antivaxxer as soon as it became fashionable to do so. Our society really has degenerated to an uncivilized state.
It is kind of a messed up gift that we got to see the real trajectory of all this, in our lifetimes. All the damage and death is heinous, not a choice I would have made, but now, everything is different. Thanks
This was a really poignant read, kudos to you for having a conscience and a soul. Thankfully I was spared the mandates, likely thanks to a small but vocal group of us at my corporation holding the line and running rings around HR, but we too were harassed, bullied and labelled throughout the whole charade for refusing to wear masks etc, and the “anti-vaxxer” rhetoric ended the day I claimed unfair discrimination to senior management.
Sadly, calls to literally “expose anyone refusing to do their part publicly” had prior to this apparently fallen on deaf senior management ears.
I’m however strangely grateful for the entire covid debacle, as it forced me to confront realities and truths I otherwise would have ignored, and put me on the path of taking responsibility for my own health and well-being, and out of the prying gaze of big pharma.
Thank you for your courage to stand against the tide and also share with the rest of us to help keep us sane and safe from the propaganda. People like you are rare and special.
Thanks for sharing your story. My best friend’s brother is fairly high up in Pf.... and has somehow been able to get around the jab for medical reasons. He’s trying to stick it out to retire after many years and hates that he is even there. So sad 😞 Glad you got out.
Use of the term "anti-vaxxer" is secret code telling you to do the opposite of whatever it is they are telling you to do! Only a bully would use this phrase.
Aussie17, thanks so much for sharing what you know. It's shocking, really. I just subscribed as our heros shouldn't work for free. Hopefully, my friends will join in. You take care, and keep writing. Furry hugs!
My two, adult, ASD offspring had exemptions-came through on their online records almost straight away after doctor filled the form out. It was our Special Olympics sport coach who told us to apply as they had knowledge of others getting exemptions. Also I know of a big-name, nationwide employer who, in a small community, granted an exemption to an employee on the basis of a letter from his doctor claiming he was "at risk". It was a lie, perpetuated by media, that there were no exemptions. We all needed to stand together, stand firm and resist. My union was on no help, yet other state employment groups held out much longer in QLD and were not mandated as a result-you just didn't hear or read about it in the media. They were not paid to promote, report on, the opposition! That is deemed "misinformation", or anti-v rhetoric.
I was in and out of Victoria over the last 3 years after being away for the previous 3 years. When I first got back I could not believe how much the media was pumping Dan Andrews up.
Was there ever a reason given for the brothel exemption? Or an attempt to explain it? It seems incredible really.
Great post. Re. conflating skepticism over pharma industry practices and opposition to vaccines, I'm now both! I was also wondering if you've seen this vax quiz - https://vaccinequiz.org/ It concerns the US system but could be adapted a bit to reflect relevant Oz practices/vaccine schedules/laws etc. Job for you??
"- The term "anti-vaxxer" is used to demonstrate someone who is a critical thinker."
I always read your posts with a Aussie accent.
lolol
Appreciate the answer Sir.
LOL. get a crate of Castlemaine 4x or Fosters; sing along to this ... and you could be a real Aussie (plus the accent get's better) !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqtttbbYfSM
Being called an ‘anti-vaxxer’ and, ‘conspiracy theorist’ by my husband for 2 solid years made me doubt my sanity:(. But, the phoenix has risen and, it’s because of pp like you Aussie!
My Commiserations to you regards the spousal abuse... Curiously, I must ask whether your husband has seen the light given the passing of time and apologised. I share a similar journey as a father / brother to a total of 9 blood relatives and 3 inlaws, all of whom scoffed at my warnings. Only 1 from this group has barely approached the state of 'waking up'.
Nope. No apology but, he has health issues now. And, a lot of ‘coincidences’ occurring with friends and, family. So, there is silence. Which, at the root of it is probably fear. Hey, at least you have 1 coming around!
I don't really care if the older ones dont' come around, it's the younger ones you want to see the light, before they try and start families or maybe before their kids have been jabbed for the 18th vaccination (18 vaccinations on the Australian schedule which is about 64 better than America but 18 more than best practice)
I’m sorry you had to deal with that in your own home! Bad enough from strangers.
Cinpete you’re not alone my husband called me an antivaxxer and Covid denier.
I’m not a denier I did constantly point out how people had been denied early treatments and had led to their deaths.
He is however in denial though and will not admit he’s been conned, he’s not alone as millions now are suffering from side effects and excess deaths continue.
Not admitting is a form of mind protection form them that our governments could harm and murder en mass on purpose.
Legend... I left my job too, I let them sack me, and let it cost them thousands in lawyer letters and representation (I didn't spend a cent)... I am amazed that most people didn't see through this propaganda, and that there is no collective memory of thalidomide, Vioxx etc to jolt people awake and suspect something isn't quite right here... Especially when it became forced, and they started recommending it for pregnant women and babies...
Work mandated, despite already knowing we had a case of confirmed vaccine pericarditis... OH&S rules went out the window...
I don't regret leaving work for a second ... Who wants to work for people that moronic?
I did exactly the same. McClown's mandate came into effect at my work on 31/12/2021 - some happy New Year - not!
Forced them to stand me down, terminate me, then took them to Fair Work Commission knowing full well that it would not work, and they had 2 lawyers there plus 2 from HR up against me on my own. Got extra monies out of them, then dragged my feet on signing the Deed of Release forcing them to make changes to it first. No regrets whatsoever.
We also had a case of vaxx induced pericarditis in the office. A young mother of 2, and I was astounded that she went back to have the next jab! This process has clearly demonstrated that OH&S is now a crock of S H one T.
I too, got called an anti-vaxxer in the office by a young male account manager, in front of the entire work crew. Nothing was said to him. It was okay for him to label me. I am glad I no longer work with that lot. Moronic people is an understatement IMO.
Legend... I got called an antivaxxer by work's lawyer at Fairwork too... No reprimand to him by the "mediator"... Despite the guy screaming the term at me like a looney (it's a strange term to spew out anyway, that w@nker didn't know me, I had taken other vaxs in the past without thought really, so how does refusing a rushed genetic potion that's not a vaccineake me antivaxxer? Although after last three years I definitely wouldn't touch one now, so I guess I am now).
Arn't we all.
I’m going to call it this from now on “rushed-genetic-potion-that’s-not-a-vaccine”, thank you 😊
mentioned that to some who were eager to get the jab - we are all old enouigh to remember the disabled, deformed babies at the time - they must be my age now. But 'that was something different'. Not in my eye. So far, just had one with a serious seizure now afraid to drive.
Retired 3 years early at the start of the scamdemic, living on too little to live and too much to die but we made it, now fully retired, with retirement pay. Thank god we made it!
Glad you made it through!
I remember thalidomide kids from my school days too
I am scared for all of those with the mortgage, the families, the kids to feed and school ... Many were coerced... Many can't go one pay without disaster to their domestic life... But what will life be like for them in 8 years time, will they get cancer, will the myocarditis sufferers be dead? All the autoimmune conditions, will they still have any quality of life? I know so many with the side effects (and a few who passed away quickly after their vax, not reported to TGA either, but their deaths were very suspicious, strokes and blood clots)... So many won't join the dots as the religion tells them the vac was "safe and effective" and saved "30,000 lives", even though much research says otherwise... and no proof any lives were saved at all, as vaxxed piled in hospital with covid anyway.
Mass non compliance would have been great, it the six who didn't want it at my workplace stood strong, work would have had to change their mind... I get why they caved, but if they'd stood their ground, work would have to cave ...
absolutely. I think if every 40 or 50 of 100 would have refused, this would not have happened. If that many doctors had done their jobs, read up on what was in the vaxx and looked at the pfizer website, they would have seen what a disaster it was. But doctors and after that their patients, trust the govt, even though they normally realize what a bunch of liars make up the govt. Almost everyone has a computer, but I have to hear from the first of friends who did their homework!
Thanks for all your work and insights about your personal experience.
I saw through “antivaxxer” from the beginning as it’s the same playbook that industry used with antidepressants. Except back then those who were trying to get blackbox suicide warnings on antidepressants were called Scientologists.
I will never forget after I testified before US Senate about late husband’s story/FDA reform, the chief lobbyist for National Alliance for Mentally Ill went around to all the Senate HELP committee with my written statement and said “don’t believe a word she is saying, Kim is a Scientologist.”
So when Covid jabs came along, I started to hear “antivaxxer”, “anti science”, and even a “Trumper.”
Name calling is just a distraction when they can’t defend their products.
Plus, never forget they even had to use Webster dictionary to rewrite definition of “antivaxxer.”
.. you might recall the WHO had to officially change the definition of a vaccine to include the characteristics of the ' Experimental gene shot' / countermeasure
good for you mate !!
Glad you saw thru all the nonsense, and thanks for sharing your story
I saw a post on facebook that said " If you could rid the world of something what would it be? " My step father wrote " Antivaxxers" I have not spoken to him since. My silly Mother listened to him and got all the toxic jabs only to end up in hospital with the worse flu and tachycardia.
I am not Antivaxx I am anti Bullshit.
Getting called an anti vaxxer is nothing to me nowadays.
I say "yes I am, what are you going to do about it?"
It is both hilarious and scary that a lifelong Vax seller, like yourself, is labelled antivaxxer as soon as it became fashionable to do so. Our society really has degenerated to an uncivilized state.
Proud to be an anti vaxxer! Never ever again will I take any kind of shot nor will I endorse my children or grandchildren getting even one!!!
It is kind of a messed up gift that we got to see the real trajectory of all this, in our lifetimes. All the damage and death is heinous, not a choice I would have made, but now, everything is different. Thanks
This was a really poignant read, kudos to you for having a conscience and a soul. Thankfully I was spared the mandates, likely thanks to a small but vocal group of us at my corporation holding the line and running rings around HR, but we too were harassed, bullied and labelled throughout the whole charade for refusing to wear masks etc, and the “anti-vaxxer” rhetoric ended the day I claimed unfair discrimination to senior management.
Sadly, calls to literally “expose anyone refusing to do their part publicly” had prior to this apparently fallen on deaf senior management ears.
I’m however strangely grateful for the entire covid debacle, as it forced me to confront realities and truths I otherwise would have ignored, and put me on the path of taking responsibility for my own health and well-being, and out of the prying gaze of big pharma.
Thank you for your courage to stand against the tide and also share with the rest of us to help keep us sane and safe from the propaganda. People like you are rare and special.
Thanks for sharing your story. My best friend’s brother is fairly high up in Pf.... and has somehow been able to get around the jab for medical reasons. He’s trying to stick it out to retire after many years and hates that he is even there. So sad 😞 Glad you got out.
Works at PF and refuses. Tells a story in itself.
Use of the term "anti-vaxxer" is secret code telling you to do the opposite of whatever it is they are telling you to do! Only a bully would use this phrase.
Aussie17, thanks so much for sharing what you know. It's shocking, really. I just subscribed as our heros shouldn't work for free. Hopefully, my friends will join in. You take care, and keep writing. Furry hugs!
thank you!
UR sooooo welcome! You take care.
Furry hugs!
Any credible estimate on the percentage of Aussies that refuse even 1 dose or took no test during the last 4 years?
5-10%
My two, adult, ASD offspring had exemptions-came through on their online records almost straight away after doctor filled the form out. It was our Special Olympics sport coach who told us to apply as they had knowledge of others getting exemptions. Also I know of a big-name, nationwide employer who, in a small community, granted an exemption to an employee on the basis of a letter from his doctor claiming he was "at risk". It was a lie, perpetuated by media, that there were no exemptions. We all needed to stand together, stand firm and resist. My union was on no help, yet other state employment groups held out much longer in QLD and were not mandated as a result-you just didn't hear or read about it in the media. They were not paid to promote, report on, the opposition! That is deemed "misinformation", or anti-v rhetoric.
I was in and out of Victoria over the last 3 years after being away for the previous 3 years. When I first got back I could not believe how much the media was pumping Dan Andrews up.
Was there ever a reason given for the brothel exemption? Or an attempt to explain it? It seems incredible really.
Selling it off won't help, Channels 7, 9 & 10 are just as bad.
I used to think that the State was the only opposition to big capitalists. It seems it's just a tool of them.
Brothels were open, but you had to wear a mask!
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Thank you for the solid info Rose.
Great post. Re. conflating skepticism over pharma industry practices and opposition to vaccines, I'm now both! I was also wondering if you've seen this vax quiz - https://vaccinequiz.org/ It concerns the US system but could be adapted a bit to reflect relevant Oz practices/vaccine schedules/laws etc. Job for you??
Yes I do.
me too - I got 15/15. I think I hesitated over one or 2 questions all the same.